THIS PROGRAM IS SUBTITLED LIVE, THE SUBTITLES ARE DELAYED
Welcome to 'Café De Mol'.
It's still cozy here.
Nelleke Poorthuis from the Dutch podcast 'Trust nobody' is here.
And in the seats are Timon Verbeeck and Jonatan Medart.
Any first reactions?
(Timon sighs)
That was a first reaction.
The task with the toilet was very fun.
Timon, now that Dries has been eliminated, is Isabel
the only one left
from the Pastel de nata group from the duel task two weeks ago.
When Dries got his red screen,
there were a lot of emotions.
You have a whole theory.
I didn't find him very suspicious,
but I had found a hidden hint.
The theme of the episode was water.
The first thing that was said was: is a glass of water okay?
And Dries' glass was the only one on the other side.
He'll be coming to our café soon, but first we're going
to analyze the episode in detail.
Back to the beginning, the book task.
Is a dictation for you guys?
There were words that were logical.
But that spice, I didn't know that one.
Dries rephrased his sentences to avoid dt.
I do that too, actually.
I suggest we discuss the searches for the books separately.
We'll start with Julie searching and Dries finding. With dt.
Dries isn't sure about D or T and asks for help.
But he still creates something with a T.
A bit later, he's fighting with D and T again.
The ED of Yannis and Wout...
is wrong.
Meanwhile, Julie has found a book from the Netherlands.
Yannis has now found what we were looking for.
But Julie, as everyone knows, is crazy about horses.
Julie tries an alternative.
But then...
Julie has smurfed it. And Dries too.
't Kofschip.
Julie trying to get away from 'Harry Potter'?
She doesn't recognize Tintin either,
but she's doing well.
She did well.
She picked the right book.
I didn't find her suspicious.
Yannis did well.
I never find it suspicious.
At the beginning, it was too obvious.
Not anymore.
Where would you want to sit?
With the readers.
Nobody is looking at you.
But Yana, I found her theatrical.
With the writers, you constantly have an impact
on what is happening.
It goes so fast, do you get caught by that?
Or you have to make a strange sentence structure.
Nelleke, according to Julie, Don Quixote is a Dutchman.
He is not a Dutchman.
Do you understand everyone?
I'm very grateful for the subtitles.
I only understand Gilles De Coster.
Are there words you find strange in Flemish?
Heating, I didn't understand that.
If you don't understand, we will help you.
There are some former contestants here too.
Is that your thing, writing correctly?
I do make spelling mistakes.
Who are your suspects?
I had two.
I think most about Yana.
Have you seen any suspicious things?
Yana was tapped.
With the hula hoop, she was still very flexible.
Now she couldn't get over the sticks.
For me, it was the writing mistakes.
So we are looking for a rock 'n' roll legend
and Yana has found one.
Yana keeps looking in the red.
Dries knows this one well.
Meanwhile, Wout is busy with his grand dictation.
And again, it's Yannis who knows what we are looking for.
Yana knows Pippi Longstocking well.
And if Wout now doesn't make any more mistakes...
Unfortunately, the alarm betrays Yana
and she gets into trouble with a blind person.
Go ahead.
I think it's funny,
I'm a bit clairvoyant and I feel,
as soon as she knows which book it is, she gets tapped.
There were two. She was a bit stuck.
I found it a bit suspicious.
It was acted.
I also found Wout suspicious.
When the word comes up, caoutchouc,
he should have asked.
Would you make the mistake, to lead and to suffer?
I looked it up this week.
We really need Dutch.
Otherwise, we make a lot of mistakes.
Nelleke, do you know what caoutchouc boots are?
I don't know what it's about.
They are rain boots.
The little man with the red hat is familiar to you guys.
It's from Hotel Europa.
I haven't read that.
Did you find Yana suspicious?
She climbed up my list.
I'm going to pay more attention to her.
Online, Yana also appears regularly as a suspect.
Here for example. Nelleke, can you explain this to us?
These were the songs from the rally task last week.
If you take the first letter of the first song
and the second of the second song and so on,
you get the word mole.
If you take everything together, you get 'ma para'.
She is a mother and a paratrooper.
And we are definitely looking for a cookbook.
For Maxim, a cookbook is something for when you're hungry.
Maxim then tries something else.
Good try,
and to know if it really is a cookbook, Dries asks...
But the orders come from chef Wout.
Unfortunately, the book labeled 'novel',
is apparently not a cookbook after all.
The book with the lemon on it, all my friends have it.
I don't know the book.
The title of the book is Simple,
and he used that word a little before.
Is that prior knowledge?
Do you know the book Simple?
No, but I do know the book with the lobster.
Could it be that he thought the writer was Roman?
That could be.
Did you recognize the Ottolenghi book?
Definitely, it's in my kitchen.
What do you think it is?
An exciting adventure book for boys.
Definitely, that's what it is too.
It's a kind of time travel.
Stephanie and Charlotte, is Maxim on your radar?
He can stay in for a long time, a fun guy.
I think he didn't know the book with the lemon.
He's still young.
He just saw the lobster and thought: I'll take that with me.
Isabel is chosen to take the books.
What does that say about her position in the group?
I think it was a test for her.
I don't know if they trust her there.
She took it very quickly.
It was very chaotic.
She should have looked around more.
She guessed four of the six books correctly.
The other mistakes are understandable.
I think so too, everyone calls it The Diary of Anne Frank.
But if Yana is the mole, then we are dealing with a loud mole.
Just look at how Julie reacts when Yana is shouting.
After the books, there was the movie.
What did you guys think of it?
I was able to make something out of it.
I found several people suspicious.
Isabel could lie very well.
I'm not ruling her out yet.
But Yana takes the cake.
I think it's a difficult assignment.
They are all very self-aware.
It's hard to tell from it who is acting,
because they all do that.
Isabel said: if I had a blindfold, I would look.
What do you guys think?
One of the two is definitely not the mole,
so one of the two is disappointed.
They are very self-aware.
Wout did a good job.
Isabel swallows twice.
You can really see it.
Nelleke.
I found it interesting that Wout was drinking.
Did that put him more clearly on your radar?
I find him less relaxed than normal.
Sometimes details are magnified to formulate suspicions,
for example the T-shirts the contestants are wearing.
And yes, maybe that's true.
In this episode we saw 'espresso' on Dries's T-shirt.
And indeed, it was short and sweet.
Julie's T-shirt says 'spicy love'.
I'll refrain from commenting on this.
With Yannis we see 'vélotourist'.
That seems very innocent to me.
But then look at Maxim. 'Suspicious'.
It's literally written there.
But that's America.
We're also just looking for anything.
I've also looked very far.
Gilles said: you're going along as...
Only with Dries and Isabel did he say something different.
Your role is.
But Dries is an eliminated contestant, so I am thinking of Isabel.
Isabel will be coming to our café later,
he is still waiting in his dressing room,
we asked him to vacuum in there for a moment,
but apparently they forgot that.
Now it's a break, time to read some Pippi... Longstocking.
Or something by George Orwell. See you in a bit.
THIS PROGRAM IS SUBTITLED LIVE, THE SUBTITLES COME WITH A DELAY
Welcome back to 'Café De Mol'.
I am still sitting here with Timon and Jonatan
and with Nelleke Poorthuis
from the Dutch 'De Mol' podcast 'Trust nobody'.
We need to talk about a toilet.
Maybe before we discuss the assignment,
we should first look at a short summary.
That isn't simple, because the assignment was
like every toilet visit, all sorts of things happened.
People looked and saw nothing.
People thought and saw nothing.
Isabel remains very calm under it.
Eventually, there were a remarkably large number of people in the toilet.
In the toilet, lots of 'chatting' was going on.
Yana and Julie get it, but there was also a lot of confusion.
The Portuguese waitress finds 'De Mol' an annoying show.
And she is relieved when Maxim finds her button.
A lot of chaos in this assignment,
but Yana sums it up very nicely again.
Where are you best as a mole?
If you are in the toilet, you have a view of the money.
On the terrace you can pretend you don't see the tips.
In my eyes, you're best off in the toilet.
Quickly or not?
You can also wait for a bit.
Julie and Yana sat in the toilet the longest
and could mole best there.
Yana didn't decide to go to the toilet herself.
It was decided by the group.
As a mole you can outside
best sit where you have the most view.
Wout has a view of the board that is constantly changing.
He is in a good spot.
Stephanie and Charlotte, what do you deduce from the toilet assignment?
An action for me, in the review
we are going to see that Yana very often passes
and the money disappears.
I think it is Isabel,
she stands at her ease outside.
She also didn't really participate.
Can you as a mole be so passive?
I think so.
Isabel sits there quietly.
Wout remains in the background.
We see little of his decisions.
We have seen him pass little.
We see Wout too little, I find that suspicious.
When Yana doesn't see the screen,
that they wouldn't step into it
if she is the mole.
You look at those two screens with every action,
that seems to me anyway.
The mirror won't explode.
Nelleke?
You can mole very well on the terrace,
then you find the tablet very late in the car.
Because then you don't get a step further.
Then there is a good chance that they keep passing.
Yannis is not suspicious because he encourages the group.
Then you have to know how long the assignment has been going on.
After the toilet visit, elimination had to take place.
In three rounds, good for 1000, 2000 and 3000 euros profit or loss.
And 1, 2 or 3 elimination questions.
I suggest looking at the three rounds separately,
because this was a fine piece of psychological warfare,
at 'De Mol' level.
In the first round, Maxim is for the group feeling and against pressing.
Isabel smiles an Isabel-smile.
And she smiles her Isabel-smile again.
What would you guys have done?
For one question we wouldn't press.
You can only press once,
because then the chance is gone.
I would save it up.
Isabel does give the push.
Because of that, I might press.
In the second round, Maxim sticks to his strategy: just don't press.
But Wout sows doubt.
Julie sputters a bit against it.
Isabel is clear.
Wout continues to sow doubt.
Now it is Yana who sputters against it.
Isabel already feels who the presser on duty will be.
Rightly so, as it turns out.
That is a nice statement.
Tiles should be made of that.
I wanted to say that: a nice, blue tile.
Does he have a point?
It can be part of a strategy.
I find him very suspicious.
He presses in the second round.
The attention will be shifted to the third round.
If someone presses in the second round,
it's definitely going to be done in the third round too.
It would have been striking if they didn't press in the third round.
Isabel is stirring things up.
But the worst is yet to come.
Then it was time for the third round,
for 3000 euros or three extra pass questions. And all hell broke loose,
or as they say in Westmalle...
Maxim starts counting.
And yes, then it's clear.
Julie herself also finds it a pity that she pressed.
Isabel repeats once more that 'the game is on'.
After which Julie just takes over the game
and immediately goes to sit in the presenter's chair.
5000 euros out of the pot.
Mission accomplished, for the mole anyway.
A lot happened here.
As a candidate, it's not smart,
then you want to be the first to press.
Why would Isabel say that if she wasn't going to press?
That's sowing confusion.
You almost get angry.
Julie is the scapegoat because she has the advantage.
Even though multiple people pressed.
I found it funny that she has the advantage.
We don't know who all pressed.
Isabel definitely pressed.
Maybe she didn't press to be less suspicious,
but said that to sow confusion.
I don't find Julie suspicious at all.
As a mole, I would always press,
but a bit later.
Preferably that someone else presses
so you stay under the radar as a mole.
Yana hasn't made herself suspicious.
Because of that, I put her on the reserve bench.
Now Wout is more suspicious to me.
Who is your mole?
Isabel.
Wout.
Yana didn't have to add anything anymore and saw it happen.
Nelleke, do you have enough material after this episode
to fill a 'Trust nobody' podcast?
Definitely, it will be a long talk afterwards.
Who is your mole?
Isabel.
You're sticking with that too?
A lot of people suspect her.
But I'm still sticking with her too.
I'm sticking with Yana.
The 'Café De Mol' group thinks so.
Two suspect Julie, two Yana.
And what you at home think,
you have let us know again in large numbers.
Your prime suspect is...
Isabel is number one.
Julie is the least suspected.
Then it must be Julie.
Timon, Jonatan, we already saw the eliminated contestant sitting in the lounge earlier,
but I think I hear him ready and waiting now.
A big round of applause for Dries.
Welcome. How are you doing?
Very well, but I would have preferred to still be in Portugal.
It was a special elimination, with only 17 questions.
Very special.
Did you have the feeling that it could be over?
It was the middle of the game.
You couldn't spread your answers anymore.
You had to be more specific.
I kind of expected it.
5000 euros has gone out of the group pot.
Yet you did your best to convince the group.
You were first confronted with the facts by Isabel.
Did you press?
I didn't press.
I saw it happening that I would still take money out of the pot,
get those questions wrong
and still have to go home.
Did you doubt?
I doubted.
But there was a countdown clock of 10 seconds.
Then it was too late.
The game is played.
It's played hard every year.
But an hour after the assignment, we're in each other's arms again.
You prepared well.
I re-watched all previous seasons.
I learned the Belgian zip codes by heart.
Sometimes they ask: what is the zip code of the mole?
Did it help you?
Some details did help me.
Like the license plate of the car the mole was in.
But you do get paranoid from it.
Dries, you are a man of many talents, that's clear by now.
But games are unfortunately not one of them.
What happened?
I wouldn't blame it on my Dutch teachers.
I had already asked: how do you spell that?
They didn't tell me if it was with a d or a t.
'Gesmurft' is with a...
T.
Which assignment was your highlight?
I found every assignment very fun.
But when you don't know what's happening,
that I find honest.
Like when we were buried.
With the toilet too.
We had turned all the glasses over.
Fortunately, you're not allergic to sand.
I still found it everywhere a few days later.
Last week there was a lot of fuss about your profile on Tinder,
namely your very large...
Former profile.
I thought you stayed very calm here.
I still don't understand that you could answer that.
What was her explanation for that?
That she hadn't heard it.
But it had already come up.
And they had given a number of examples
of how the test would work.
And it rhymed every time.
I think many people in Flanders are wondering
what your profile picture on Tinder looked like.
A friend of mine took it.
But you didn't meet your girlfriend on Tinder.
No, in Lesotho.
Do you think it's a pity that you were eliminated
just before she might come.
I did find it a pity.
She had already found excuses.
Thank you, Dries.
I also thank my guests Jonatan Medart and Timon Verbeeck,
Charlotte and Stephanie, and Nelleke Poorthuis.
Sunday is the Ten Miles of Antwerp,
and then our café is open again. Until then.